Which is better jeanneau or beneteau

Which is better beneteau vs jeanneau? Asked by: Prof. Tyrique Zemlak V. Where are Beneteau manufactured? Are Beneteau Oceanis good boats? When did Beneteau start making power boats? Can I trailer a sailboat? Is Jeanneau a blue water boat? Is Beneteau a blue water cruiser? Which is better Jeanneau or Beneteau? Are Jeanneau boats Bluewater? What is the difference between Beneteau Oceanis and First?

Oceanis model is made for cruising, first is made for speed. What does Beneteau mean in English? How much is a Beneteau Swift Trawler 30? Is Beneteau still in business? I have not seen a vang that looks like that. Yes, I am a little confused about the vang--and only the vang. It looks like a soft vang with an aluminum cover. The boat has no fucking traveler. The mainsheet is on an idiotic, ugly, and otherwise pointless arch.

How sturdy is that arch? I would hate that boat for day sailing, cruising and even drinking booze at the dock. It is set up all wrong for me, and it's fucking hideous. You couldn't give me that boat for free. It's not my place to babysit dreamers. My clipper bowed boats are fine boats. How many of mine have you sailed? I avoid stupid generalities about boats. Bruce King did some very fine clipper bowed boats with bowsprits. If that's a CT65, a friend has just been offered a job skippering a newly restored one in Croatia.

He was very taken with it. Most luxurious and ship-like. But many of us do live near some big nasty oceans. Many of us go out in the oceans when they are particularly nasty. For me, it's a no-brainer to spend my time in an "overbuilt" boat rather than an underbuilt boat.

I've made an offer on one of Bob's designs, and its first sail in my hands will be from California to Oahu, where my wife just started a new job. I check my weather routing apps daily, and tropical storms pop up about every 36 hours and cross my path to Hawaii. Hurricane Blas was one of those. My boat needs to survive any surprises I can't plan around. Your beloved suggestions would barely get me past the breakwater here in Los Angeles.

I love your quote: Is Bene and Jene reputation in danger? Probably not; they already have a reputation for undersized rigging, poor tabbing, flexible hulls, undersized hardware all around.

It seems they are actually enhancing that reputation now. I am very proud of the fact that Vladimir Ashkenazy has one and has some of my cartoons framed and hanging above the piano in the salon. He sent me some autographed CD's. They just omitted the wall between the front and the rest of the boat, so everybody can hear you fucking in the v-berth.

Well, you missed the ship-shape book shelves--err, windowsills where the books are precariously balanced. That's ok, they won't fall because the boat won't leave the dock. On second thought, the weight transfer from a 95lb bikini bimbo boarding the boat could topple them. There's no stove, so it's unlikely there will be any large evacuations.

One can always piss in the sink. Seriously, corporate office cubicles for the lowest levels of staff have more charm than this Ikea yacht. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, and you should hold out for what you want. However, you are not entitled to complain if the boat you want is not mass produced.

Maybe one production boat in a thousand makes a sea voyage that takes loner than the long range weather report. A semi-production builder with an output of maybe 10 boats a year might it, but a company like Catalina wants to sell copies of new model. It's not their market. I'm entitled to complain. First, the douche told me my taste in boats is all wrong. Then he told me I proved his suggestion is "far more enjoyable. But I would not use that Bene 35 as a floating litter box for my cat, much less sail it to Catalina for a weekend of lobster hunting.

Production boats are fine for Southern California's Channel Islands, where it rarely blows beyond 35 knots and seas rarely exceed 12 feet. But I need a workable galley in those conditions--especially to boil the lobster. I need my books to stay in place.

I need lower freeboard and windage. I need storage for fishing gear and hoop nets and tools and safety gear. I need a traveler to balance the helm, and a mainsheet system that would rip that arch off the Bene.

I don't have a dodger or bimini, but I wish I did. Most production boats can do all that. This Bene 35 is sorely lacking on all those fronts. Thanks for all of the thoughtful comments and other discussions that have evolved. Also, thanks for the addition of the Grand Soliel boats to the list. To recap, I'm looking for somewhat voluminous hull form, no sleeping in the living room unless it's crowded.

Looking for all of your sage advice and input. How about x-yachts? I've never been on one, but have only heard good things about their build and sailing manners. My biggest beef with them--especially the Maine boat--is that the companionway is forward of the dodger. So in rough weather, you need to leave the cockpit, walk forward, duck under the boom, and descend into the cabin. It leaves room for a nice aft stateroom on an aft cockpit boat, but I think those contortions are not cool for someone of my state of decay.

To where? There isn't even a bail on the stanchion base, there are no outboard leads I can see on the boat. For the piece of piss sailing the OP wants to do, i. I'd be looking for something 38 - 42 ft with a couple good cabins. At the last two boat shows I've attended I've been more taken with the Dehlers than anything else. Of course they're newer so they'll probably be too pricey but I love their attention to little details. The designers have either done some sailing or they've listened very well to those that have.

They give good boat show as there racked up in a row at a show and looking the rear entry where you can't tell what boat you are on. Powerboat manufactures have been doing that since the 70's. Good marketing though appealing to the spousal unit too. Meaning and I didn't come up with this but a long time broker friend did "Guys look at boats all day long but it's the women that buy them".

You are a brave man or single to not to involve "her". Also, which some eluded too already, that there is a huge charter equation here as the manufacturers are stupid not to cater to. So the charter boats are built for a 3 to 5 year lifespan in charter then they change them out. Nothing wrong with that but I think the general boating buying public are a little conned here.

If you are looking for a "real" production boat that will do it all, and last over the years try a Sabre or a But you have to be quick as they don't last on the marketplace until they get snapped up. Jenneau, Dufour, Beneteau? Start new topic. Recommended Posts. Caca Cabeza Posted July 31, Posted July 31, Just got back from a 7 week trip on a 's era swan 47, and a more modern interior is a must. Comments, or other boat ideas? Link to post Share on other sites.

Replies Created 5 yr Last Reply 3 yr. Ishmael 8, Posted July 31, Caca Cabeza Posted August 1, Posted August 1, Fleetwood Posted August 1, Sounds as though you are planning a fair bit of blue-water work My 2c Jaramaz 40 Posted August 1, Kent H 43 Posted August 1, Posted August 2, I see you aim at ft boats.

Older boats usually have smaller interiors due less smart design. You don't need overbuilt Suhaili type as you seem know very well when its too much for a boat. Its like with cars. The new VW Polo is surprisingly spacious inside. Google Jeanneau owners forum pro boards Very helpful Bunch. Hobie Dog 26 Posted August 2, Good luck and be sure to keep us posted on how the boat search is going!

Mogle 14 Posted August 2, Frers designed a 52, 45 and 42 for Grand Soleil, built by Cantiere del Pardo. Good luck! Panoramix 1, Posted August 2, Whisper 39 Posted August 2, I have to agree. Here are just a few things that the pic tells us. What boat is it by the way? The deck will try to rise when the rig gets loaded - no bookshelves. There's probably more but that's what I see from this pic. I wouldn't buy it. Ishmael 8, Posted August 2, This is what it looks like from the outside Thanks Ish.

You have a better memory than me. Keysrock35 53 Posted August 2, Oceanis Bob Perry 1, Posted August 2, Tommy: I just reviewed the Oceanis are the French Hunters, they are mainly meant to be daysailed between marinas.

For me it's both subjective and objective. Maybe it just needs more doilies. It is very cultural. I still think plank lines can enhance the look of some boats.

I took at look at the 35 on the Beneteau website. The version pictured above has no stove. Cheaper too. It is a bit like comparing this : to this :. SemiSalt Posted August 2, Posted August 3, Jaramaz 40 Posted August 3, Rantifarian 7 Posted August 3, The cheapest boats are cheap for a reason.

Panoramix 1, Posted August 3, Bob Perry 1, Posted August 3, Bryanjb Posted August 3, Ed Posted August 3, Clipper bows and sprits appeal to the dreamers. Auld Mug 1 Posted August 3, Caca Cabeza Posted August 3, Whisper 39 Posted August 3, Your statement is just another generality. You see what you want to see. I like accurate talk. The built 35 of these and they have been all over the world. Ed: Yep, that is the CT65 aka Scorpio Whisper: Which boat are you making the offer on?

The head is on the starboard side of the companionway. There is a version with a stove but no port or hatch anywhere near it. Nice and smoky. Waquierez use Jeanneau hulls - read into that what you will. The styx numbers can be found on the rya website. Jonny has a good point about weight. It is not necessarily the weight that gives you an indication of how substantial the construction is.

Compare my Bav 37 which displaces 5. An HR36 displaces 7. This is all a trade off. What you get in return is a larger volume hull and a substantially lower price because ignoring the manufacturing efficiencies all the gear can be smaller in size - but not lower in quality.

Same mast and rigging, same make engine and so on. However the designs behave differently because of the differences in choices made by the designers, which in turn reflect what they think their customers want.

Back to real choice. Always a good discussion topic! SirSnoozalot New member. Can you give us a clue where? Joined 21 May Messages 78, Location Here or there. Almost all modern boats have balsa cored hulls including HRs, Bavaria etc.

As with all techniques the secret is in th application, so although some boats have problems with water ingress into cores, it is not a general issue. However, it is incomplete as the data has to be provided by the builder and not all do that, even though they have to state it in the boats documentation for the RCD.

However, it is a composite measure, and like all such measures is only as good as the assumptions upon which it is based. There is, however an issue with the definition of Category A "Ocean" where the conditions used to describe usage are low compared with actual usage conditions.

Therefore the everyday meaning of Ocean is being used to describe conditions much lower than might be experienced in some Ocean sailing. Therefore there is an argument for a sort of "Super" A category with higher Stix requirements than would be acieved by many current Category A boats. As you might imagine, many builders would resist such a move.

This is an argument for relying on empirical evidence rather than theoretical calculations. However this will reveal many examples of successful ocean voyages in boats that would never get anywhere near Category A so might not actually be helpful!

On the other hand there are enough examples of the sorts of boats used for ocean voyaging for the reasonably aware yachtsman to make up his or her own mind about the suitability of any particular design! Thanks Tranona, more reading for me tonight. I find this stuff really interesting. Liked the look of the Bav 38 Ocean too, have not seen one of them before. DickB Member. I used to own a Bav 42 Ocean. Great yacht and lovely layout.

I think the 38 is just a little short for the layout, try the I think it looks a lot better. A couple of points though If you are buying, make sure you get a survey. Bavaria do cut costs by using a 'teak' deck that is a teak faced plywood. When water gets underneath it rots the base layers. Expensive to replace. I had a couple of patches when I sold mine earlier this year. However, I think all the modern production yachts suffer from slamming the Bav Ocean range included.

In any sort of chop the flat bottom just ahead of the keel whacks down and makes a noisy and uncomfortable ride. Outside of that they are very well put together and very good accomadation. A friend of mine has one and it is also very well laid out and has a very protected cockpit. He has the rigid dog house and it gives a lot of protection from spray and rain Good luck. But on this thorney subject of suitablity of different craft the static data does provide a good starting point BUT as others have said the manufacturing methods are changing fast, divini cell, vaccum bagging and so on are reducing weight because the resin process is more accuratley controled.